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Joss Whedon drops a bombshell about Marvel’s TV shows…

April 23rd, 2015 by Marc 1 Comment


Remember when Agent Coulson died in Avengers? And then was brought back for Agents of SHIELD?

Were you annoyed, thinking it took away from the impact of his death? Well, Joss Whedon was.

Speaking to Mental Floss, Whedon dropped the bombshell that even though he was a creator on Agents of SHIELD (which presumably the studio chose the direction of), he wasn’t impressed with Couls0n’s not being dead and dropped a bombshell: “A lot of people come back in The Winter Soldier. It’s a grand Marvel tradition. Bucky was supposed to die. And the Coulson thing was, I think, a little anomalous just because that really came from the television division, which is sort of considered to be its own subsection of the Marvel universe. As far as the fiction of the movies, Coulson is dead.

Wait, as far as the movies are concerned, the TV show isn’t canon? How can this be? Surely Whedon shouldn’t be under that impression? Well, it seems he is.

He continued: “But I have to say, watching the first one with my kids—I had not watched the first one since it came out—and then watching it with my kids and watching Coulson die but [thinking], “Yeah, but I know that he kind of isn’t,” it did take some of the punch out of it for me. Of course, I spent a lot of time making sure he didn’t. And at the time it seemed inoffensive, as long as it wasn’t referenced in the second movie, which it isn’t.

“There’s a thing where you can do that so many times and there’s nothing at stake. But it’s difficult because you’re living in franchise world—not just Marvel, but in most big films—where you can’t kill anyone, or anybody significant. And now I find myself with a huge crew of people and, although I’m not as bloodthirsty as some people like to pretend, I think it’s disingenuous to say we’re going to fight this great battle, but there’s not going to be any loss. So my feeling in these situations with Marvel is that if somebody has to be placed on the altar and sacrificed, I’ll let you guys decide if they stay there.”

We aren’t sure what to take from this, if someone like Whedon is saying he doesn’t really worry about the TV ‘”subsection”, especially with Netflix’s Daredevil and the the upcoming series.

What do you think? Is it to be taken with a pinch of salt?

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Marc is a self-confessed nerd. Ever since seeing Star Wars for the first time around 1979 he’s been an unapologetic fan of the Wars and still believes, with Clone Wars and now Underworld, we are yet to see the best Star Wars. He’s a dad of two who now doesn’t have the time (or money) to collect the amount of toys, comics, movies and books he once did, much to the relief of his long-suffering wife. In the real world he’s a graphic designer. He started Following the Nerd because he was tired of searching a million sites every day for all the best news that he loves and decided to create one place where you can go to get the whole lot. Secretly he longs to be sitting in the cockpit of his YT-1300 Corellian Transport ship with his co-pilot Chewie, roaming the universe, waiting for his next big adventure, but feels just at home watching cartoons with his kids….

  • Nathan Baxter

    Loved the movie, and I reckon it’s all a matter of ‘how’ the return to life happens. Fair idea what he’s foreshadowing though, and I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t take place.

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